[Git 7/6/11] Game Freezes when clicking on Options

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[Git 7/6/11] Game Freezes when clicking on Options

Postby penguin » 08 Jul 2011 18:54

Read the title. I am running Windows 7 Ultimate on 2.0GHz Pentium 4 with 1GB of RAM and a ATI Radeon X1300 Series Graphics card (running Windows Vista driver since they don't bother making one for 7).
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Re: [Git 7/6/11] Game Freezes when clicking on Options

Postby BowserJr » 08 Jul 2011 22:35

penguin wrote:Windows 7 Ultimate on 2.0GHz Pentium 4 with 1GB of RAM


Hmm. How's that working out? That's pretty much the bare minimum to get 7 running at all, and certainly won't do well for ultimate. Please share your Windows experience score, just because I'm curious. (Start > Right click Computer > Properties).

This seems much more likely to be a Windows hogging all the resources issue than a game bug.
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Re: [Git 7/6/11] Game Freezes when clicking on Options

Postby Luiji » 09 Jul 2011 17:14

Haha, this is one of the reasons I stopped using Windows...

I agree with BowserJr, this appears to be a problem with your OS taking up too much power. You can try disabling Aero. It will make all of your windows look pretty ugly but at least it will increase speed. You can also try changing your desktop to a single color, but I'm not sure if that actually does any significant speed-up.
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Re: [Git 7/6/11] Game Freezes when clicking on Options

Postby penguin » 10 Jul 2011 18:10

Mine is a 3.6 and I'm actually surprised by that. It actually runs faster than my windows XP installation... which is quite surprising.
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Re: [Git 7/6/11] Game Freezes when clicking on Options

Postby Luiji » 11 Jul 2011 00:11

That is quite surprising, and almost unbelievable. Are there specific programs that run faster, perhaps? Or does the everything run faster?
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Re: [Git 7/6/11] Game Freezes when clicking on Options

Postby penguin » 11 Jul 2011 14:33

Everything runs faster than my XP installation. I loaded the current git on there and could not reproduce it. I also have a Windows Vista machine that I could try it on.... I'll load git on that and try to reproduce.
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Re: [Git 7/6/11] Game Freezes when clicking on Options

Postby penguin » 12 Jul 2011 14:25

I confirmed it on a Windows Vista build. with an experience index of 3.1

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Re: [Git 7/6/11] Game Freezes when clicking on Options

Postby Luiji » 12 Jul 2011 16:22

Erm, sorry that I have to ask so many mundane questions, but what is the maximum experience level? Also, did SMC run perfectly smoothly on XP, or was there any jitter at all?
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Re: [Git 7/6/11] Game Freezes when clicking on Options

Postby penguin » 12 Jul 2011 20:04

Luiji wrote:Erm, sorry that I have to ask so many mundane questions, but what is the maximum experience level?

7.9 The maximum you can get with today's hardware is around a 5.0 because Microsoft planned ahead and wants to use the same tests for the future.
Luiji wrote: Also, did SMC run perfectly smoothly on XP, or was there any jitter at all?

It ran perfectly on XP, and only one or two jitters on Vista and 7.
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Re: [Git 7/6/11] Game Freezes when clicking on Options

Postby BowserJr » 13 Jul 2011 00:32

I love the brilliant randomness of 7.9. Why would Microsoft intentionally design an arbitrary scale that stops on 7.9? Why not just scale everything so it's out of 10?

5.9 is pretty much the limit because it uses the lowest score in a variety of categories, and the only way to get above 5.9 on Primary Hard Disk is to have a Solid state drive. Likewise, all the Windows 7 computers I have can't get above 3, because they don't have dedicated graphics cards (my "main" computer with a good graphics card is still on XP). They all still run Windows well enough, including full Aero. I should probably test SMC on my "2.4" laptop. To be clear, are we talking latest stable or GIT?
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Re: [Git 7/6/11] Game Freezes when clicking on Options

Postby penguin » 13 Jul 2011 14:10

BowserJr wrote:To be clear, are we talking latest stable or GIT?


Git as of 7/6/11
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Re: [Git 7/6/11] Game Freezes when clicking on Options

Postby Luiji » 15 Jul 2011 12:49

It's possible that XP used software rendering, leaving the graphics card nice and open for SMC, and that Vista/7 are using hardware acceleration, leaving not enough room for SMC to render efficiently. Have you tried disabling Aero, yet?
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Re: [Git 7/6/11] Game Freezes when clicking on Options

Postby penguin » 15 Jul 2011 13:30

Yup. Disabled everything. Its just bare basics now......
I realized this bug is on other places of the game.
  • Leaving Editor
  • Editor -> Open, New, Load, Options, Save As
  • Entering Speedfactor
  • Entering Debug Mode
  • Any Place that words come up on the screen or a dialog box is affected.
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Re: [Git 7/6/11] Game Freezes when clicking on Options

Postby Luiji » 16 Jul 2011 19:53

Eh? Sounds like something's wrong with CEGUI...
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Re: [Git 7/6/11] Game Freezes when clicking on Options

Postby penguin » 16 Jul 2011 20:01

That's actually what I was thinking...... I'm using the latest dependencies from the binaries dir on sourceforge..... ( http://smclone.sourceforge.net/binaries ... ibs_8.7.7z )
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Re: [Git 7/6/11] Game Freezes when clicking on Options

Postby Luiji » 17 Jul 2011 19:25

Uh...what version number do the libraries have? I don't think we have any binaries for the CEGUI 0.7.x series, which is what Git SMC requires. This would mean that you simply have the wrong libraries. AFAIK you need to build CEGUI 0.7.x on your own.

It might be helpful if I started making CEGUI 0.7.x binaries for the major platforms...
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Re: [Git 7/6/11] Game Freezes when clicking on Options

Postby penguin » 18 Aug 2011 22:19

I have traced it to the DLL files but I do not know which one it is.....

I downloaded the dll's from http://smclone.sourceforge.net/binaries ... ies-8.7.7z
Does anyone know what FluXy's OS is?
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Re: [Git 7/6/11] Game Freezes when clicking on Options

Postby Luiji » 22 Aug 2011 22:04

FluXy does.
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